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Mecano - Αποκλειστική συνέντευξη! |
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Tuesday, 02 October 2007 |
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An exclusive interview with
Dirk Polak
of Mecano.
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What kind of personal artistic needs led you to make
music with this project again, after remaining in silence for about 20 years? I
know that your sentimental expression didn't stop all these years, you make
sculptures, paintings, and of course the fascinating paintings with Mecano. How
do you explain that musical and lyrical expression stopped while the other
forms flourished?
Dirk Polak: The musical and lyrical expression went on, but
captured in different projects (private tapes, bands with different names etc)
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Many legendary post punk / new wave bands reunited and
played some concerts or even made a new album during the last few years. Is
there a mutual reason for this phenomenon?
Dirk Polak: No there is not a mutual reason. I even prefer to play
the new material, but since we are obliged to our fans, we have to play old
stuff.
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In days of "Autoportrait" and of the
numerous landmarking ep's, many bands were making strict and clear political
statements in their songs. Apart from a mass of punk bands, the Clash, Gang of
Four, Au Pairs, were inspired by the current political situation. Mecano, in my
opinion, symbolised the idealistic aspect either of a social or a personal
revolution, the romanticism in reacting. Nowadays, this kind of motivation is
very hard to find in rock music. Do you believe that people are more realistic
now, or political and social context had much more urgency back then?
Dirk Polak: People are more realistic nowadays but only became
more lonely as individual in society. The political and social contexts became
even more urgent than ever!
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Many songs created by Mecano, can be described as
elegant manifests against sentimental inertia and human tendency to injustice
or exploitation of others. Did you ever think of these songs as hopeful
motivations in order to improve life or do they include irony for an
unchangeable situation? Do you believe that the problems been criticized will
ever be solved?
Dirk Polak: The problems being criticized never will be solved
completely, that's the motivation to create art. I hope there will be hopeful
motivations to improve live, although sometimes some mild in any is necessary
to balance one and other.
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In your lyrics you use many meaningful words, creating
a density of somehow complicated pictures. They seem to be written in a
literary way, like a procession of enforcing a particular meaning. That was for
sure revolutionary in days of post punk music. How did the audience react at
first to this originality? I'm sure that many just saw you as a group blindly
dedicated to the left field.
Dirk Polak: Some people admired it and hailed it as a substantial
part of our music and sure many people just saw us as a group of blindly
dedicated to the left field. But if I read then well, the mild irony is taking parts.
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Well in some way, post – punk is a matter of
decentralization. I mean, geographically, cities like Manchester, Sheffield,
Edinburgh and countries like France and Australia challenged the hegemony of
large cities and countries. Perhaps the main characteristic of some bands not
coming from motherlands of post punk is authenticity. One could bring in mind
Mecano, the Birthday Party, Tuxedomoon, Nits. In your opinion, is this
connected to cultural and social differences, or in essence, the story of great
music is the story of outsiders, in every sense?
Dirk Polak: I like your conception
on the essence of the story of the great music as a story of outsiders. It can
deliver a great discussion (let's try that in the future!) On my behalf,
I am standing for the great cultural moments on the continent. French poets,
German philosophers, Russian writers and poets. In short the depth of the
continent is what I like and use.
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That's a quite famous and pure punk story : " I was listening to country music but then someday a friend of mine put
a Ramones record to play and I said, 'what the hell is this?' and my life went
totally different ." Do you have your own similar story?
Dirk Polak: My life never changed by
shock of musical experience. I was always attached to a wide spectre of music
in all its forms.. Although Pere Ubu's first singles can be mentioned as
"what the hell is this?" phase.
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'The mutant jasz' is one of my favourites. The dark
combination of violin, strong drum beat, threatening vocals, shapes a cold
industrial feeling. You were melancholic without being melodramatic. What led
so many musicians back then to explore the claustrophobic part of life, and which
ideals survived through the years and stand today as place of inspiration for
your recent songwriting?
Dirk Polak: The industrial feeling
is a substantial part of Mecano (meccano the iron toy!) and will always be a
red line through our material. We added next to the industrial and social
comments the human, all the human parts
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I was always thinking that "vista", the
second Flue album, could be the follow up to "autoportrait". I mean,
except the fact that is a truly great record, everything sounds like what
Mecano would be if there was a third album at that time. Of course it's Bolten
on it, but even Edward Gijsen sounds like you … What happened to that guy? Is
there any chance "vista" will be re-released on cd like the first
Flue record?
Dirk Polak: After recording Autoportrait, where Cor plays a
crucial role, Vista was recorded in the same studio with the wisdom gathered
from Autoportrait. Edward worked for tv as an audio technical guy and was a
dedicated fan of Mecano. While I recorded the first album, (one and a half)
Edward and Cor produced Vista themselves. Small chance Vista will be re
recorded, because the masters disappeared.
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You have produced the two first albums of Minimal
Compact. How did you feel at that time trying to guide other musicians to
express themselves musically?
Dirk Polak: It was a main goal then to help fellow musicians and
create a kind of statement of our times. I helped starting Minimal Compact
(they lived in my house for a while), produced them and played accordion, extra
drums and backing vocals (two songs, lead voc)
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The songs of Mecano
were always infused with an essence of nostalgia. With the introduction of the
verses by the Puerto Rican poetess Karen Joglar , the new material presented in
" those revolutionary days" is reflecting beautifully a burden
of nostalgia coupled with a pressing need for a radical change. Mr. Polak can
you please talk to us a little bit about your new album and the group nowadays?
Dirk Polak: Listen to your copy.
You are the one that finds the right words to describe. I like your questions a
lot. You know about details, have clear thoughts, so I trust you.
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Despite the fact that the title of the album provokes
and urges by bringing to mind rebellious images, there is an absence of rawness
that was dominant in the first two albums. The sound is more elegant, your
voice warmer and words seem more straightforward and mature. Maybe that means
that you feel the same way?
Dirk Polak: It's all about maturity and re –discovery. I try to
use the things that happened in my life to set the songs and then reflect with its listeners. It gives
me a feeling to be sane, when I can express. It makes me rich! Especially when
it makes people happy or wiser.
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Are you familiar with the current music scene and
bands like Interpol, Editors or even Sigur Ros? Any fresh music that gives you
shivers down your spine ?
Dirk Polak: I listened sparsely. Nothing new in my opinion. I get
the shivers of old 60's albums I purchased who are forgotten now.. Or never had
a proper release/distribution. For instance Karen Dalton, Fred Neil,
Collectors, Bergen Whites.
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The movie "Control", picturing the life of
Ian Curtis, leader of the legendary Joy Division, is typically the second movie
for this band. Many fans dig in all sources of information to learn more and
more details about their hidden stories, the relations between the members and
the people that surrounded the band. Meanwhile, a lot of bands try to look and
sound like the Joy Division. What's that special element that everybody tries
to capture and why has this continuous mystery grown even so many time since
then?
Dirk Polak: Idolization is that element people seem to need. For me personal the
strongest side of Joy Division is their producer Martin Hannet. Warsaw was
average but since Martin Hannet appeared on the scene, the band got that touch
that makes them invaluable.
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Is there any space left for musical experimentation in
the future? Are we going to enjoy any new territories in the soundscapes of
Mecano?
Dirk Polak: Always we are an art movement, so everything is
possible. We won't repeat ourselves, new territories will be found.
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Now, in a few days it's the Gagarin concert. I suppose
that you will play a lot of your new record, but people asking…Are we going to
hear "links" this time?
Dirk Polak: Yes you are
going to hear links.
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You've been in Greece
for quite some time now…In particular, what scents and images do you associate
with the streets of Athens? What would you keep in your heart with love
and what would you throw in the dustbin?
Dirk Polak: The potential keeps me
here. I can bring some kind of structure. The only thing I throw in the dustbin
is the urge for fashion and the vanity I come across.
Intreview by:
E. Giannakopoulos
K. Brellas
K. Rouhitsa
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